Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

What year was Evan’s Committee meeting?

I assume you mean the first one we know of - the one in the UK? There was a second one in Croatia. FYI - Evans is not disfellowshipped - he is disassociated.

The year was 2008. All of this is from Evans's own account, so you can probably count on many omissions, half-truths and blatant lies.

2007 - Evans is appointed an elder. They move to Bramhall congregation and out of the Wilmslow one where his dad was/is an elder.
As an elder in Bramhall congregation, Evans comes into conflict with a man he calls "Geoffrey". True to form, Evans believes Geoffrey has a grudge against him and is constantly seeking to undermine him.
2008 - Dijana catches him sexting someone he met in an online chat forum "not for the first time".
Evidently she felt this was an ongoing problem and wanted him to come clean to the elders. Evans wanted to keep it private and handle it within the marriage.
Her viewpoint prevailed, probably at the threat of her leaving because as we know Evans is not keen to follow other people's advice.
Evans insisted on first switching halls back to Wilmslow in order to avoid Geoffrey. (I think this detail is rather important, especially if Geoffrey had knowledge of Evans's other alleged proclivities)
As soon as the paperwork cleared and he was an elder transferred back to Wilmslow, Evans authors a confession letter describing his sins with the cybersexting and resigns as an elder. He places the envelope underneath the door of a Wilmslow elder and expects him resigning as an elder to be the end of the matter and was making plans to move to Croatia.
Per policy since a sin was committed and confessed to, the Wilmslow elders wanted to convene a Judicial Committee. As an elder Evans should have known this and it is odd that he felt a written confession would be the end of the matter.
A series of judicial committees is held, the exact number of which is unspecified. The end result was Evans being deleted as an elder and being publicly reproved in BOTH the Wilmslow and Bramhall congregations.
Evans and wife move to Croatia. He initially is assigned reading scriptures in his poor and heavily accented Croatian and begins to slowly fade. In his isolation due to his inability to follow the programme in Croatian, he begins having doubts.
2011 - He joins this forum as "cedars". It was his first foray into the apostate world.
29 December 2013 - During a judicial committee for apostasy in Croatia Lloyd Evans hands in a disassociation letter for both himself and his wife. His letter simply stated that he resigned as a JW. His wife's was longer and evidently ambiguous - enough so that the elders felt they should have their own meeting with her.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Let's quit pretending this is a real case because it's not. The fact he retained counsel is what confuses the issue because it seems to give it validity when it has none. If he really wanted to, he could retain a lawyer to sue Queen because he was under the impression that Freddie Mercury was on lead vocals. Retaining counsel doesn't prove anything but the fact Lloyd has/had a decent sized savings account accrued from donations.

The fact that he admitted all the basic points people keep bringing up is what kills this litigation at the root.

If this were a real case where there are criminal penalties, jail time, fines and restitution at stake, the defense would call Dijana to the stand and serve them discovery requests that Lloyd has no intention of ever complying with.

The success of this case relies (in part) on some half-baked legal theory which Lloyd publicly espouses about criminal convictions in absentia. All over people talking shit over the internet about him and his admissions on his livestream. If it were that easy, celebrities, athletes and politicians could have a side career suing people making negative comments about them on social media.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Makes you wonder, if he has a lot of money, why did he choose to stay in the same house as his parents in law all these years?

The answer to that question was made clear round the time he had relocated to a hotel in Istria on the northern Croatian coast after the earthquake. He tweeted out something to the effect that he didn’t want his girls growing up in Sisak where the standard of living was low and suggested he was going to begin looking at properties in Istria.

At the end of the Andrew Gold interview, he said something about living in retirement on an island with a fishing boat. He probably had enough to purchase a place in Istria but living on the coast or on an island is a few steps up from that and won’t come cheap.

There was also the problem of his wife and he likely was also looking for a place to deposit her and the girls on the mainland whilst he had sex holidays at his island retreat.

This whole scandal has jeopardised all of these grandiose plans and it’s notable that he mentioned to Andrew Gold that he regretted he could not reach out to every lapsed Patron to tell them they have been misled and to invite them to donate again. He doesn’t want to go back to 2017-2018 levels. He wants that 1000 patron goal for a reason. I think he was planning on living a life of semi-retirement from exJW activism at his beach retreat and handing over the keys to the Lloyd Evans channel to a Mark O’Donnell type whilst at the same time keeping all Patrons and donations for the channel and giving whoever took it over a salary similar to Tibor’s. He envisioned an “activist emeritus” position for himself and he could be interviewed by Zoom whenever the next WT scandal broke.

This is also why he cancelled a planned two month sojourn in Thailand and rushed back to Croatia after three weeks in order to stop his wife from divorcing him. He doesn’t want a public divorce and at the time all his activities had been kept secret. It also puts strain on his finances to pay child and spousal support, especially when based off Ipsilon Media earnings.

Hmmm ever wonder how he might have enticed his wife back into a marriage arrangement during this last holiday? I hope she put her foot down for a home deeded to only herself.

So appropriate for penniless ex JWs still trying to gain their own balance to donate to him so he can have a home on an island & to pay the wife off so he doesn’t struggle to pay child support.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

He’s a walking pile of contradictions. He went absolutely batshit over Brexit, blocking people left and right who expressed support. Though it is common for a British expat in a country like Croatia to keep a bank account in local currency and one in pound sterling, the very lengths he went to in describing how a devaluing of his reserve currency would affect his finances was a bit revealing as to how much he had in savings.

He then wrote a lengthy blog post for his Lloyd Evans website advocating for a Brexit re-vote after admitting that even though he was eligible and registered, he did not vote in the referendum or in the recent election.

This after several tweets about how Johnson was about to become prime minister even though he did not vote!

Perhaps he needs to open a third account in Thai Baht?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

For anyone who is a late-arrival to this thread and would like to quickly see what all the hub-bub is about, the resume at this website should serve the purpose of bringing them up to date. I can’t figure out who wrote the resume.

Page 263 of this thread. I wrote it. I drew my inspiration from the following three sources in precisely this order:

Lloyd Evans
Gin & Tonic
Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

From a trusted source: working title and cover of Lloyd’s new book

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

he is once again a family man. Nice try, but I am not buying it.

But on whose word do we have it on that they are separated and divorcing? Something Dijana told Kim when they were quarreling about Thailand back in January and Lloyd’s explanation he gave last month? An explanation forced from him when he was caught trying to date women in London and Zagreb?

Something else is at play here. There is a hold he has on her and he knows how to manipulate. Now he goes on holiday with Dijana and the girls (Yes, she was there) round the time of their wedding anniversary and comes out wearing his wedding ring?

I don’t think that’s a coincidence or that he’s necessarily playing a role.

There’s a twisted and sick co-dependency going on and she seems to be easy pickings for him when he decides the dating life isn’t bearing any fruit.

Why is anyone’s guess. We know he needs help. It’s quite possible she needs help to break this co-dependency cycle.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

He’s wearing his wedding ring on that pic.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if he did. I don't worry about the plight of people who abuse and bully others.

A friend of mine got involved in his circle after he bolted this forum. I warned her of the bullying nature of the man if you dare disagree but it was always “he does so much good! Those videos are excellent!”.

It didn’t take too long for him to publicly shame and humiliate her when she critically questioned him over the COC debacle. What was left of her his zombie army finished off.

She was an absolute wreck and we spoke into the wee hours of the morning trying to sort all this out. The main issue was that she couldn’t believe the sheer viciousness of someone who ostensibly was there to provide support and encouragement for exJWs. When it was explained that it was a business to him and the COC mess threatened that, it started making sense.

I wouldn’t say she was close to suicide but she had a history of self harming and was very vulnerable.

I don’t want anyone to commit suicide and Lloyd if you are reading (which you of course are), don’t jump off that bridge. There is hope. Maybe one of those Instagram models will reply with a kissy emoji and for one evening you’ll feel like a million euros. Or perhaps another trip to Thailand is in the works. McDonald’s might have a 2 for the price of 1 Big Mac special running for a full week in Zagreb.

But I am with Simon. If this creep offs himself it’s the culmination of a long history of bad behaviour that he cultivated, made excuses for and attacked critics of mercilessly. I’m not bending myself out of shape to prevent this. We’ve told him he needs help. What else is there to say?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

And you shouldn’t judge others for having their own limits. Otherwise, you’re no better than Lloyd

You certainly can advocate for his mental health here.

And I’m here to tell you it’s the stinkiest pile of bullshit imaginable if you fall for his “I’m close to suicide” schtick.

That was about as genuine as his FB post where he stated he was “seriously considering leaving ex JW activism” if the ‘bullying’ didn’t subside. Well we stepped it up to call out his BS and here he is months later writing two books.

Suicide? Stop believing what a known liar says.